FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
Yeah I know, looks like I am asking the entire railway empire... but it's not (or, at least, i think so).
Let's start with puntualization ; a good part of this work could just be done with scripting (I think):
1 - The E636 (your HZ 1061) had, once a time, the 120km/h max speed configuration. Maximum speed was limited, in 1990, to 110km/h. I think it is worth doing this modification, maybe from 1990 going on. It has been retired in 2006.
2 - FS class E646 is just an evolution of the E636. Those 2 machines are closely the same thing; in fact, the first locomotives produced, were esthetically equal to a 636 (blueprints, technical data and photos on this post).
3 - FS used, once a time, to change the last number of the locomotives class identification number to indicate a different destination of use. So, for example, The E626 class was intended for "high speed" trains (95km/h); The E625 was the same identically machine but with shorter gear ration (50km/h), ideal for freight trains. The same has happened for the E646, where the E645 got a shorter speed ration (120km/h). So, this means that the E645 class is just a copy of the E646 one. It only needs scripting
4 - The late E646/E645 locomotives received a modification on cabs (french like cabs). Photos on this post. It will need 3D modelling
5 - FS Class E424 is nothing more than a compressed E636. E424 is shorter, 2 boogies for a Bo Bo displacement, just few more power. It will need 3D modelling to make adaptations. There was a first version and a second version, substantially the same thing. Only changes in livery, particulars on the side panels and headlights.
So, let's go now with blueprints and technical datas
E646 First generation (E636 like):
- Built from 1958 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 140km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 233 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E646 Second generation:
- Built from 1962 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 140km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 233 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E645 first generation:
- Built from 1959 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 268 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E645 second generation:
- Built from 1963 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 268 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E424 original state:
- Built from 1943 to 1986
- Max speed: 100km/h
- Power: 1550 Kw
- Tractive effort: 144 kN
- Weight: 72 t
### just with different engines ####
- Built from 1943 to 1986
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 1550 Kw
- Tractive effort: 153 kN
- Weight: 72 t
E424 upgrade:
- Built from 1986 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 1550 Kw
- Tractive effort: 162 kN
- Weight: 72 t
For both E646 and E424, from 1986 they've become reversible for "servizio navetta" train (metro-like trains).
Hope this part is enough
Let's start with puntualization ; a good part of this work could just be done with scripting (I think):
1 - The E636 (your HZ 1061) had, once a time, the 120km/h max speed configuration. Maximum speed was limited, in 1990, to 110km/h. I think it is worth doing this modification, maybe from 1990 going on. It has been retired in 2006.
2 - FS class E646 is just an evolution of the E636. Those 2 machines are closely the same thing; in fact, the first locomotives produced, were esthetically equal to a 636 (blueprints, technical data and photos on this post).
3 - FS used, once a time, to change the last number of the locomotives class identification number to indicate a different destination of use. So, for example, The E626 class was intended for "high speed" trains (95km/h); The E625 was the same identically machine but with shorter gear ration (50km/h), ideal for freight trains. The same has happened for the E646, where the E645 got a shorter speed ration (120km/h). So, this means that the E645 class is just a copy of the E646 one. It only needs scripting
4 - The late E646/E645 locomotives received a modification on cabs (french like cabs). Photos on this post. It will need 3D modelling
5 - FS Class E424 is nothing more than a compressed E636. E424 is shorter, 2 boogies for a Bo Bo displacement, just few more power. It will need 3D modelling to make adaptations. There was a first version and a second version, substantially the same thing. Only changes in livery, particulars on the side panels and headlights.
So, let's go now with blueprints and technical datas
E646 First generation (E636 like):
- Built from 1958 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 140km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 233 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E646 Second generation:
- Built from 1962 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 140km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 233 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E645 first generation:
- Built from 1959 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 268 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E645 second generation:
- Built from 1963 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 3980 Kw
- Tractive effort: 268 kN
- Weight: 110 t
E424 original state:
- Built from 1943 to 1986
- Max speed: 100km/h
- Power: 1550 Kw
- Tractive effort: 144 kN
- Weight: 72 t
### just with different engines ####
- Built from 1943 to 1986
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 1550 Kw
- Tractive effort: 153 kN
- Weight: 72 t
E424 upgrade:
- Built from 1986 | retired 2007
- Max speed: 120km/h
- Power: 1550 Kw
- Tractive effort: 162 kN
- Weight: 72 t
For both E646 and E424, from 1986 they've become reversible for "servizio navetta" train (metro-like trains).
Hope this part is enough
Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
E646 first and second generation... as you can see, the first gen is an E636
Another pic of the E646 with the 80's livery, at the time when it started being used as reversable locomotive
Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
E645 first and second generation.
Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
Fs class E424. In the first pic you can clearly see that "luggage carry" space in the middle of the locomotive. It was removed and the final form of the locomotive is in the last pic. I've posted the blueprints just to check how side panels are displaced.
Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
So, other than this, I think I can help (whenever this project takes form) doing repaints, because there were different liveries (blue white, green white, brown, orange purple white, white blue green, blablabla...)
Cheers!
Cheers!
Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
Well done!
Very good and usefull info...
Thanks!
Very good and usefull info...
Thanks!
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Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
If I try to imagine that these machines can run on my maps, the adrenaline rushes me ... excellent details Rocco
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Yo, thank you in advice if you will ever do any of those things.
I could look silly, but there is also another correction to do on the Class E636
- power: 1950 kW
- tractive effort: 216 kN
Our locomotive was weaker than SZ 361 / HZ 1041. I bet those railway administrations decided to increase power output of those locomotives. I honestly like more originality, so our FS locomotive must be slower
Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
OH YEAH! If I only had the competence on 3D modelling I would have been collaborating for sure But I'm not, I am more on practical things like tuning my carsJackLaMotta wrote: ↑12 Feb 2020, 11:58If I try to imagine that these machines can run on my maps, the adrenaline rushes me ... excellent details Rocco
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Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
Really Truth....Danny will surprise you ... you will see!
Re: FS Class E424, E636, E645 / E646
Oh yeah RaptorArk, we accomplished you!
>> Raptorark: oh yeah thanks!
>> Raptorark: oh yeah thanks!